The question came, late morning in one of my on-site telephone names sourcing (MagicMethod) presentations, from a pretty young woman who appeared to be in her mid twenties sitting at the back of the room in the last row of a room of fifty or so, and it took me by surprise.
"What are we full-cycle recruiters supposed to take away from all of this?"
James Finder, Sourcer at PeopleOps Consulting asks, over on LinkedIn:
What are the best resources to find passive candidates outside the United States?
I am familiar with using Monster in its international capacity, but would like to ask my LinkedIn community what resources and best practices are used to find passive candidates outside of the United States. Thank you and I look forward to reading your answers. Especially in Europe and Asia (Pacific Rim, China, Japan, and SE Asia). See answers in this discussion.
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Rusing, uhhhh, "discussion" breaking out here over on the Yahoo Sourcers Unleashed group. Answers listed below original post on site so be sure to scroll down and also be sure to add your own opine!
Hi! Is there a website that lists "recruiter's ruse" tips and tricks that I can use to dial into a company to trick the front desk into letting me speak to "the development lead"? Thanks! ~Stuart
"I have listened to the "to ruse or not to ruse" argument several times and always find it interesting. Whether you like it or not, Researchers/Sourcers ruse. If you are using the telephone for research, you are rusing. Unless you are calling into the "gatekeeper" saying, Hi, my name is John Smith (no relation to Paul of course). I'm a Researcher/Sourcer working for one of your main competitors and I'm trying to get the name of your top sales people or top engineers (or whatever position you are trying to fill) you are rusing! You are not being 100% truthful. What would happen if you stated the REAL reason you were calling? The "Gatekeeper" would hang up on you. Just because you are NOT making up a story, doesn't mean you are not rusing. By eliminating information from the Gatekeeper you are creating a ruse. The definition of the word ruse is: an action or plan which is intended to deceive someone. By calling into a company for the purpose of finding employee names and titles and NOT revealing this fact when you first call into the Gatekeeper is an attempt to deceive. To deceive is to ruse. So, unless you are telling every Gatekeeper or person on the other end of the phone that you are a Researcher or Sourcer and are looking for the names of their employees for the recruiting team or for their competitors, you are rusing." ~ Barb
Continue reading "Rusing - the argument that won't go away!" »
I feel compelled to respond to Vincent Wright's ERE posting because, lately, many sourcers are coming to me telling me they're being propositioned w/ "split" deals to do the upfront research on searches.
I tell them I would not do it.
I also must confess most of my adult working life has been spent in a commission-only space.
Let me tell my story.
Simple script to generate high quantity and high quality leads by Ron Mason here.
To truly stand out from the pack, successful firms must embrace sourcing as a separate role. It will require a bit of internal restructuring, but the end result will provide a sensible, systematic and specialized approach. Social media sourcing specialists need some basic resources and tools to get started.
Read about them here.
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An Advanced Networked Video Surveillance Systems Provider is asking, over on LinkedIn, about video surveillance and can it improve profits? At first glance the whole thing felt kind of creepy but looking at the answers I noticed this one:
Sure - a resounding yes. With license plate recognition technologies we paved the way for road toll collection..."
I took a second look and wondered out loud what would happen if license plate recognition technology could be used to capture names of employees whose cars are parked in any one company's parking lot. Hmmmm? Sure, you'll miss a few (visitors, etc) but WOWoWOW!
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Best Remark of the Day
"How do you find passive candidates when English is a barrier?" ~ Will Mechem
Maureen Sharib
Today's Class Chat will be on International Sourcing. Alan Bogard Director, Corporate Recruiting has asked:
"Can you let me know if and when you happen to speak on the topic of Sourcing from an international perspective. We currently have operations in Canada, Dublin Ireland and London. I know Canada is not that international but it would be good to sit on a chat to discuss and hear what others may be doing.
Recent ERE discussion (Elite Cybersleuthing group) on International Sourcing here.
Sourcing in Hong Kong here.
Zip Codes outside of US here.
Sourcing in Japan here.
Developing an International Sourcing Strategy here.
Sourcing Japanese professionals here.
Passive Candidate Sourcing in China here.
Six Things You Can Do to Attract Global Candidates here.
Maureen Sharib
If you have any interesting sites for international sourcing post them here!
Read the whole phone sourcing chat log here.
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I have a 10-month-old granddaughter. She just started crawling. What happened in the beginning was interesting to watch. The task at hand was to get her knees up under her and her backside lifted. Watching this was a comedy of errors and a lot of fun. A week or so of this and she gathered enough strength in her hip area to assume the takeoff position.
Sure, at first she’d rock backwards and plump back down on the floor, ever determined to get back up. When she finally was at the point where she was steady on her hands and knees, the first thing that happened was that she went backwards! Like a train that has to roll a little backwards before it can go forward, she’d push back a couple knee-steps and then she’d lurch forward, falling awkwardly flat sometimes with the momentum. Up though she’d get, rock unsteadily, trace a knee-step or two back, and then off she went like a whirling dervish!
There’s a sourcing reason in this grandparent reporting. Sometimes on a sourcing job we have to trace backwards a few steps before we can move forward. And this is never as true as on a job that is giving us a lot of difficulty. The fact of the matter is, a job that is presenting a lot of difficulty may have been set up wrong. What do I mean? Read more here.
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Anna Patterson's last Internet search engine was so impressive that industry leader Google Inc. (GOOG) (GOOG) bought the technology in 2004 to upgrade its own system.
She believes her latest invention is even more valuable - only this time it's not for sale.
Patterson instead intends to upstage Google, which she quit in 2006 to develop a more comprehensive and efficient way to scour the Internet.
The end result is Cuil, pronounced "cool." Backed by $33 million in venture capital, the search engine plans to begin processing requests for the first time Monday.
Cuil had kept a low profile while Patterson, her husband, Tom Costello, and two other former Google engineers - Russell Power and Louis Monier - searched for better ways to search.
Now, it's boasting time.
For starters, Cuil's search index spans 120 billion Web pages.
Patterson believes that's at least three times the size of Google's index, although there is no way to know for certain. Google stopped publicly quantifying its index's breadth nearly three years ago when the catalog spanned 8.2 billion Web pages.
Read more here.
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